The Purpose Of Religion しゅうきょう

For too long we have preached a religious gospel versus a relationship gospel, and the two are completely contradictory. When we try to correct people before relationship is built with ourselves and between them and God, this will always result in anger.Rules without Relationship equals rebellion.Religious people are the greatest enemy of the cross not the devil. by their narrow mindedness, intolerance, they aren't willing to accept people that are different from them. For them it's only,'my way or no way'. territorial spirits are not demons stopping revival but religious Christians. The goal of religion is for man to receive a right relationship with God and man.あまりにも長い間我々 は関係福音対宗教福音を宣べ伝えているし、2 つが完全に矛盾しています。我々 は自分自身と神との間に関係を構築する前に正しい人々 しよう、これは常に怒りになります。ルール関係なしリベリオンに等しくなります。宗教的な人々 は十字架の最大の敵悪魔ではないです。自分の偏狭さ、不寛容、によって、彼らは彼らからさまざまな人を受け入れるように喜んではありません。彼らにとってそれはのみ、'my 方法または方法がない' です。領土の霊は悪魔の復活、宗教クリスチャンを停止ではありません。宗教の目的は、神と人間の正しい関係を受け取る人のためです。

The Christian paradigm of GOD as a tender Bridegroom with deep emotions and tenderness and feelings of passion for us was a totally new idea in the Religious community as well as the secular 
community when Jesus first revealed Himself in this way to the people of His day.When it comes to Jesus, one finds a very curious thing about Him—He claimed to be God in the flesh. Jesus own words (e.g., “Before Abraham was born I AM”), His actions (e.g., forgiving sins, accepting worship), His sinless and miraculous life (which He used to prove His truth claims over opposing claims), and His resurrection all support His claims to be God. The New Testament writers affirm 
this fact over and over again in their writings. Now, if Jesus is God, then what He says must be true. And if Jesus said that the Bible is inerrant and true in everything it says (which He did), this must mean that the Bible is true in what it proclaims.There is no faith on the planet that can match the mountains of evidence that exist for Christianity.

The church (both the Body of Christ and other religions) are trying to hold on to something that had served humankind rather well, the idea of our cosmic significance, the idea that we matter, that someone out there cares. Capurnicaous and Galileo's theories are like the very painful end of the childhood of mankind, the discoveries that we are but a tiny forgotten meaningless blue dot (planet earth) in the randomness of space is kin to a child discovering that his or her parants are in truth really unimportant to the skeme of things. A new existential area will echo down the ages from these scientific discoveries: we are still dealing with it.

Many now feel Science now makes it impossible for any intelligent person to believe in the bible as literally true. But The needs that religion answered were real and important, despite science and TV and theme parks and cancer treatment centers we still have many of these needs. We still have to die, we still need to be comforted, we still need to be reminded in conditions of aggressive capitalism, of our duties to the community and to the poor, and we still need somewhere to take our disappointments and frustrations and ambitions and sorrows. Religion may well have deep illution but an important illution that we need to understand with sencir depth and compation in order to have functioning societies in our own time. Most of the time, we live our lives on the basis of answers and meanings which we have not questioned or considered in detail. We grow up with a view of life learnt implicitly in our family, school and cultural environment. But adolescence and early adulthood is often a time when these questions can become very prominent. Sometimes the assumed meanings and answers no longer feel adequate and we can be left feeling that we face a void of meaning. Religion devoid of GOD (The Trinity) isn't a true description of how the world actually is, its something humans have invented to comfort ourselves in highly valuable and important ways.( Romans 1:18-21) Religion without Jesus is as meaningless as an ocean without water or a meal without food. 

 Many of people that embrace atheism who may embrace it for intercultural reasons or moral reasons or maybe they just want their freedom, but many of them have been hurt in some way. They've been disappointed in GOD or the church and they've been treated horribly in many instances or have been badly abused ether mentally or physically by people that represent GOD so there's a real anger there that's even justified. Alot of times people may use atheism as a manifestation of anger that they feel twords the church or twords GOD Himself and so those popular people like authors or scientists just represent a mouth piece for their particular position.

If you want your politics to prosper you will not separate religion and morality. If you want politics and government to work well then you won't separate religion and morality from political life. But Religion and morality without Jesus is as meaningless as an ocean without water or a meal without food. 

 We cannot function properly until we passionately give our heart to a Person and purpose beyond ourselves. If we don’t have something to die for, we have nothing to live for. The human heart does not work properly in half-heartedness. In order to be emotionally whole, we must live wholeheartedly. All false religions are a lie from Satan whose desire is to entrap us in a system which focuses our attention on ourselves, the turning inward of our minds and spirits in an attempt to make ourselves worthy through self-denial and the keeping of rules.

JESUS isn't the heavy yoke of religion. Holiness and obedience to Scripture are important, but they are evidences of a transformed heart .It's obedience motivated by Love. If only the religions of the earth new how pleasant He was they would fall in love; "how lovely are Your dwelling places. We love to love You." "Psalm 19","SOS 8:6-7" イエスは、宗教の重いくびきをではないです。神聖と聖書への服従が重要が変換された心の証拠です。それは服従の愛によって動機付けられて。場合にのみ新しい地球の宗教どのように楽しい彼は彼らに恋しよう。"どのように美しい、あなたの居住地。私たちはあなたを愛して大好きです。」「詩篇 19「、」曲の歌 8:6-7」


Is there a God? This is among the most fundamental questions asked by mankind and For most of History religion has been a central focus of human concerns. But know in large parts of the developed world it's become a slide show or even an irrelevance because it's been declared untrue by the most powerful force in our age, Science.

But For the majority of human history, the overwhelming answer to this question has been, “yes,” though there have been strong disagreements about what kind of god, God, or gods exist. Beyond the Bible, we also have the support of archaeology, science, history, literature, and human experience that there is a God. Naturally, some point to evidence from those fields to attack the idea of God’s existence. And yet the balance of human experience, science, and philosophy seems to indicate that there is a God. Much of what we assume as part of daily life, including reason, morality, and human rights, are nonsensical unless God exists.

 The major criticism commonly stated by Humanists, Atheists, Evolutionist,naturalism etc “God of the gaps” argument (only the “gaps” in scientific knowledge are explained by the work of God) that invoking supernatural explanations should decrease in plausibility over time, as the domain of knowledge previously explained by God is decreasing. However, with modern advances in science and technology, the tables have been literally turned. Twenty-first century technology is increasingly revealing gaping holes in conventional evolutionary theory. The information-rich content of the “simple” has only recently been understood at any real level and found to be anything but simple. Information can now be understood to be inherently non-material. Therefore, materialistic processes cannot qualify as sources of information. In reality, a belief in God can be derived by means of an objective assessment, rather than the subjective conjecture that may have been the case millennia ago.

Still, After hundreds of years, the debate about the existence of God can never be resolved to either side's satisfaction.Regardless of weather there is a GOD or not cinsarity is key to truly seeking truth. Just as people who deny the existence of GOD no matter how much logical evidence is presented so believers in GOD will simply never deny their existence even if true evidence were provided against it. But many people simply deny what is obvious to them. (Romans 1:18-20). GOD is "TRUTH' and we must regard Him as TRUTH. Everyone should agree that the only reason to believe something is because your convinced it's true not something your trying to believe into existence.

People will echo or quote what they read,hear,or see in pop-culture. And when they come to question opposing beliefs, their questions are not really their own questions but those of the people who evangelize their beliefs. As opposed to real questions that they are wrestling threw were they felt that they needed an actual answer. They aren't really seekers looking for truth, they aren't wrestling with these questions authentically and arriving at a position based off careful consideration. the popular people were just a mouth piece for their particular position. (Acts 17:11)
If men invent a religion, its teachings would reflect human perspectives and, of course, human error. But if the writing were free of such limitations and errors, it must have come from a supernatural source.There are twelve classical world religions—those religions most often included in history of world religion surveys and studied in world religions classes: Baha'i,BuddhismChristianity,ConfucianismHinduismIslam,JainismJudaismShinto,SikhismTaoism, and Zoroastrianism.
How can we reach truthful conclusions about God. What systematic approach should be used? First, conclusions are to be determined by the evidence not presuppositions that we bring to it.  Simply beginning with the assumption that miracles and the supernatural are fictional in character  with no attempt to justify the presupposition isn't honestly seeking for truth. If you begin with the assumption of scientific naturalism, then of course events like the virgin birth, the incarnation, the miracles of Jesus and his resurrection will have to be assessed as non-historical.We must begin with a blank slate onward.  
Second, we need to establish a framework for testing various truth claims, and then we need a road map to follow to reach a right conclusion.By definition truth is exclusive. Here is a good framework to use:A world view is built around four questions.
1. Logical consistency—the claims of a belief system must logically cohere to each other and not contradict in any way. As an example, the end goal of Buddhism is to rid oneself of all desires. Yet, one must have a desire to rid oneself of all desires, which is a contradictory and illogical principle.

2. Empirical adequacy—is there evidence to support the belief system (whether the evidence is rational, externally evidential, etc.)? Naturally, it is only right to want proof for important claims being made so the assertions can be verified. For example, Mormons teach that Jesus visited North America. Yet there is absolutely no proof, archaeological or otherwise, to support such a claim.

3. Existential relevancy—the belief system should address the big questions of life described below and the teachings should be accurately reflected in the world in which we live. Christianity, for example, provides good answers for the large questions of life, but is sometimes questioned because of its claim of an all-good and powerful God who exists alongside a world filled with very real evil. Critics charge that such a thing violates the criteria of existential relevancy, although many good answers have been given to address the issue.

The above framework, when applied to the topic of religion,are three tests for truth. Three tests for four questions and will help lead one to a right view of God and will answer the Four big questions of life:
1. Origin – where did we come from?
2. Ethics – how should we live?
3. Meaning – what is the purpose for life?
4. Destiny – where is mankind heading? 

But how does one go about applying this framework in the pursuit of God?
  • Corispondence: corisponding truthfulness; takes the 4 questions and answers them truthfully
  • Coherence: of a world view; coherent answers that stands the test of time
A step-by-step question/answer approach is one of the best tactics to employ. Narrowing the list of possible questions down produces the following:

1. Does absolute truth exist?
2. Do reason and religion mix?
3. Does God exist?
4. Can God be known?
5. Is Jesus God?
6. Does God care about me?
Something exists.You do not get something from nothing.Therefore, a necessary and eternal Being exists.(see more)
this conclusion says nothing about what kind of God exists, but amazingly enough, it does do one sweeping thing—it rules out all pantheistic religions. All pantheistic worldviews say that the universe is God and is eternal. And this assertion is false. So, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and all other pantheistic religions are ruled out as valid belief systems. Further, we learn some interesting things about this God who created the universe. He is:

• Supernatural in nature (as He exists outside of His creation)
• Incredibly powerful (to have created all that is known)
• Eternal (self-existent, as He exists outside of time and space)
• Omnipresent (He created space and is not limited by it)
• Timeless and changeless (He created time)
• Immaterial (because He transcends space)
• Personal (the impersonal can’t create personality)
• Necessary (as everything else depends on Him)
• Infinite and singular (as you cannot have two infinites)
• Diverse yet has unity (as all multiplicity implies a prior singularity)
• Intelligent (supremely, to create everything)
• Purposeful (as He deliberately created everything)
• Moral (no moral law can exist without a lawgiver)
• Caring (or no moral laws would have been given)

This Being exhibits characteristics very similar to the God of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, which interestingly enough, are the only core faiths left standing after atheism and pantheism have been eliminated. So, is evolution observable science? No, evolution falls under the realm of historical science; it is a belief system about the past. How can an evolutionist believe these things without rigorous scientific proof? Evolutionists are quite sincere in their beliefs, but ultimately these beliefs are based on their view that the world originated by itself through totally naturalistic processes. There is a term for this type of belief system—that term is religion. Religion is “a cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.” It should be pointed out that religion does not necessarily involve the concept of God. “[A] little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion.”32 Bacon” ― David BartonThe Jefferson Lies: Exposing the Myths You've Always Believed About...The only true real religion is Christianity, and this can be used as the template to explain what a religion is. A religion will therefore give an explanation for,A holy book,The origin of everything,The origin of death and suffering,The reason why humans are here,The future of humans,and The future of the universe.
Note also that one of the big questions in life (origins) is now answered: we know where we came from.

Studying Sacred Texts

Holy texts and theologies aren't the only influence on a certain group's beliefs. People are influenced by all kinds of things like their families, friends, teachers, by the music they listen to and the shows they watch and their genetics. Many people are raised to believe in the values of their culture and then they read these values into their religion or beliefs even though their belief system can't support these values.This is why people tend to live differently then what their religion commands or their beliefs really truly state.

Popular figures (such as preachers,theologians,scientists, authors,etc) that know the entire facts of their beliefs will deceive their converts in order to protect their religious community and because they want to make their religion attractive to people who believe in the values they grew up with, are surrounded by, and popularized by.Telling people the truth about their faith may repel them from that religion.

People in America and Europe for example have grown up in a western context and they either absorbed western values or they want to pretend that their faith shares these values in order to attract converts. Unfortunately what westernized believers want to believe and what they say about their religions have never really been a reliable, authoritative source to their real religious law or theology.

"At age seventeen, while beginning to serve as director of observations for Vancouver’s Royal Astronomical Society, I also began a very private study of the world’s sacred texts, testing them for accuracy. My non-religious upbringing freed me from emotional attachment to any particular book or set of beliefs. So I started with the books revered by my neighbors, Eastern religious texts, and worked my way westward.

One by one each book failed the factuality test, and I gained confidence that my initial skepticism would be affirmed—until I picked up a Bible. From page one, this book proved an exception. Not only did it provide hundreds of statements that could be tested for accuracy, it also anticipated—thousands of years in advance—many facts of socio-political history and of nature that research would one day confirm. For example, it anticipated the history and current tensions in the Middle East. It also described the four fundamental features of big bangcosmology: 1) the beginning of space and time coincident with the beginning of matter and energy; 2) continual expansion of the universe from the cosmic beginning; 3) the constancy of physical laws; and 4) the pervasiveness of entropy (decay).

Through nearly two years of study this book’s predictive power persuaded me that it must have been inspired by One who knows and guides the past, present, and future. I had essentially proven to myself that the Bible is more reliable than the laws of physics I focused on in my university courses. The only reasonable conclusion I could see was that the Bible must be the inspired Word of God."-Hugh Ross

This leads to the next question: can we know God? At this point, the need for religion is replaced by something more important—the need for revelation.

Among the figures from Beatbullying, a leading bullying prevention charity: 23% report being bullied because of their faith; 9% have been bullied because of the religious symbols they wear and 13% believe they were bullied because of religious stereotyping.

Kids reported being racially abused, physically attacked, spat at, isolated, mugged, stolen from, beaten with makeshift weapons and stabbed because of their faith.

Some find themselves depressed, truanting, have trouble eating, their confidence plummets, some even have suicidal thoughts.

Others question their faith, stop talking about their beliefs, or even feel ashamed of their faith or their families for having a faith.

Many religions,faiths, and beliefs recognize bits of truth—However, it does all this apart from God. All the world's religions have some level of truth in them, but ultimately, Jesus is the only answer to the human condition. Meditation, works, prayer—none of these can make us worthy of the infinite and eternal gift of heaven. None of these can undo the sin we've done. Only when Christ pays our sin debt and we place our faith in Him can we be saved. Only then is sin covered, hope assured, and life filled with eternal meaningit is only in Christianity that we can know that we are saved. We do not have to rely on some fleeting experience, nor do we rely on our own good works or fervent meditation. Nor do we put our faith in a false god whom we are trying to "believe-into-existence." We have a living and true God, an historically anchored faith, an abiding and testable revelation of God (Scripture), and a guaranteed home in heaven withGod.But maybe there are aspects we can learn from these bits that are true.We can learn a new and different awareness of God;Borrowing on the writing of Aristotle, St. Thomas Aquinas said that God is "that which nothing greater can be thought." The wisdom and tradition of other religions help expand the arena in which God lives and moves and has being. 
The thing to keep in mind though is that we must give the Word of GOD absulute and final athuaity. We musint except any doctrine, faith, theory, or anything that does not "comferm"  and agree with what is in scripture.

All the world religions and world views can be grouped into four categories

  1. Only Universe: Only the universe exists
  2. Only GOD: Only GOD or deity exists
  3. Both GOD and Universe: Both GOD and the universe exists 
We should recognize varying degrees of importance regarding religous beliefs and themes. Here are four categories of ideas related to the religious study—those of primary importance (essential doctrines/The Apostles' Creed- Christ is GOD, Only way to salvation, grace based religion), those held as our core convictions, those helpful for clarity, and personal opinions. The Lord wants His people to be bold, with strong convictions about what the Bible makes clear, yet with humility and proper nuance. We should acknowledge the value of people whose views differ from our own, and we must always posture ourselves to continue to learn and listen to others. Recognizing that God is the central mover in all of these, let us keep these questions from dividing Christians in our mission of sharing Christ with the world. 

No teaching, blog or discussion anywhere in this group should ever be construed to justify or to in any way encourage personal vengeance or physical violence or harm against any person.

Since some believe that we should not speak out against the beliefs of sincere religious people, please consider this free study:  Should We Oppose the Errors of Religious People?

World religions scholar Huston Smith offers an image for the various world faith traditions. He pictures them as a complex and beautiful stained glass window, refracting and revealing the pure divine light of God. Each reveals truth, goodness and beauty, and each has its own unique opaqueness as well.Rather than threatening our own faith, insights from other religions might help be less complacent, and enable us to apply some new understanding to our faith, and ultimately enhance our Christian faith threw the lense of scripture.

And this can only happen when we as Christians develop our own relationship with God to a point where we see Him more accurately, and we in turn reflect His nature. For too long we have preached a religious gospel versus a relationship gospel, and the two are completely contradictory. When we try to correct people before relationship is built with ourselves and between them and God, this will always result in anger. Andy Stanley, pastor of North Point Community Church in Atlanta, which draws more than 24,000 people weekly, states, "Often, making a point undermines our influence rather than fueling our influence." Instead of creating a conversation about why it's a good idea to consider Christianity and its benefits as a good moral pursuit, a help in troubled times, and a confidence about our destination when we leave this Earth, we expect people to automatically live by our standards. This is like telling people how to speak Chinese when they'd never planned on going to China, and assuming they want to learn Chinese when we've never gotten a chance to know them and discover their interests. "The church has lost massive amounts of influence in culture by attempting to legislate the behavior of people who don't share our assumptions," Stanley says. "And so it's pointless [and] works against your ultimate agenda to try and guilt people into or push people into behavior based on an assumption they never embraced to begin with."The Bible teaches that It is relationship that precedes ministry. You can win an argument but lose a relationship. Without relationship there is no way you can influence somebody to Christ. You can't win someone over until you first step into their world and enter into their couture like Christ did for us. engage culture and don't become so limited in your thinking. but be open hearted, lets engage our world and lead the greatest revival in our generation. Let us try to represent each view (religion/belief) fairly before offering our response from a Christian perspective.


We must all test each teaching that we hear in the light of Scripture. Do not
receive a teaching that you cannot see with your eyes in your Bible. Do not quickly
accept new ideas before examining them. Loyalty to a ministry involves humbly
challenging it when needed. Do not say, “Our leaders say…,” but, “The Bible says…” 
Test all things; hold fast what is good. (1 Thes. 5:21) The Bereans only accepted Paul’s teaching when they saw it in the Scriptures. 1They [the Bereans] received the word with all readiness, and searched the
Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so. (Acts 17:11) 
Christians are exhorted to test the spirits—to discern the spirit behind a teaching.

  1. They oppose critical thinking instead of allowing people to think for themselves.Critical thinking is objective—it evaluates information received (not the same as a critical spirit).
  2. They dishonor the family unit instead of insisting on the biblical priority of the family unit
  3. They isolate members and reject them for leaving instead of helping them do God’s will.
  4. They promote inappropriate loyalty and connection to the cult leadership instead of to Jesus.
  5. They cross biblical boundaries of behavior instead of walking in purity and integrity.
  6. They separate from the Church instead of promoting a culture of honor toward the Church.
  7. Emphasizing special revelations that contradict Scripture instead of honoring the Scripture.

Jesus said that we can only test, or know, a ministry by its fruit—words and deeds (Mt. 7:15-20). If the Lord gives you insight into a person’s hidden sin, receive it as a call to pray for that person or to go to them in private loving way to ask questions to understand their beliefs and practices.

Practical ways to avoid deception include regular, prayerful Bible reading; setting our hearts to obey the Lord; staying in close relationship with others; regular involvement with a body of believers that has established leaders who uphold biblical doctrines and leadership principles; and maintaining a teachable spirit—a spirit that receives instruction and correction from others.

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Satan is the prince of earth's religious systems, which are sometimes symbolized by the term "heavens." In God's Kingdom, there will be a new "heavens" and a new "earth." They will replace and destroy the present powers of Satan.

One part of Satan’s end-time plan is for him and the Antichrist to be worshiped by all nations.
"They worshiped the Dragon [Satan]…and the Beast [Antichrist], saying, “Who is like the Beast?”…All who dwell on the earth will worship him [Antichrist]." (Rev. 13:4-8)
There are two stages in Satan’s plan to be worshiped by all. He knows that it is too big a step for those with a religious heritage (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, etc.) to suddenly become Satan worshipers. Thus he will first deceive them into joining a worldwide religion of tolerance, without absolutes, that teaches that all religions lead to salvation. This is often referred to as the harlot Babylon one-world religion. The growing movement toward a one-world religion will lead to this.
 “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication”… The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold…having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. On her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, the mother of harlots… I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints. "(Rev. 17:1-6)
 Spiritual harlotry is synonymous with idolatry and false religion (1 Cor. 10:20-21; cf. 1 Chr. 5:25; Ezek. 23:37; Hos. 4:12-13). Idolatry was usually combined with immorality (orgies), drugs, demonic rituals, and the sacrifice of animals or humans. In order to be guilty of harlotry, the harlot’s followers must claim to have once had a relationship with the true God.
The voluntary harlot religion will be replaced by a mandatory Antichrist religion. At first, people will voluntarily join the harlot Babylon one-world religion of tolerance (Rev. 17). Then, all will be forced to be Satan worshipers in the Antichrist religion (Rev. 13:4, 8, 15)
The deception that will trouble the Church in the end times will not mostly be about embracing a false eastern religion. I believe the distorted grace message is the primary issue of deception. Many use biblical terminology—love, justice, and grace—but without an accurate biblical definition. The primary deceptions are those which challenge the truths about the nature of Jesus and His leadership over our lives in calling us to embrace a godly life of obedient love forGod.Jesus spoke of people being overcome with fear (Lk. 21:26) in the end times—even some of His own people—because they do not understand what the Word says about what is to happen in their generation. God’s people must be equipped with knowledge of His end-time plans so that they are not overcome with fear, deception, or confusion, but have confidence in His leadership. “And there will be…on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth…Then they will see the Son of Man coming…with power. (Lk. 21:25-27)

It was inconceivable to the religious mindset of the first century, that a Holy GOD could have the capacity for tenderness, compassion, or sympathy or for suffering. That resistance continues today in the religious mindset both in christian and non-christian religions. And it's the Ravished heart of GOD that's made manifest threw Jesus that's going to cause the religious community to say "The GOD of LOVE , The GOD of tenderness, The GOD of passion, That's the GOD my heart craves to know." The Hindus, the Buddhists, and Judiasim, the religious jews don't have a GOD like this in their image. The Body of Christ doesn't have a GOD like this (in their mindset). They know tipicley that Jesus is merciful, but the implications of that on our emotional life and the breaking of that down to GOD's emotions tword us is something the Body of Christ needs a significant revaluation of and the church will before Jesus returns because the church will function in her bridal identity, The Spirit and the Bride will cry "COME" and the church will have confidence in Jesus as a passionate Bridegroom and herself as a cherished Bride. The Holy Spirit is going to establish this in the church world wide Before the Lord returns. The general revalation of the Song Of Songs is that the Lord is going to raise up singers, musitions, preachers, and writers,etc, who are going to put these ideas in the people of GOD across the nations with great power and great authority.

The choices you make about what you believe, the big subjects about what you believe about GOD and JESUS and the Bible and Righteousness, it's an issue of life and death time and eternity. It's not " well it's my opinion and our group likes this and believes that and so therefore we don't have to believe what the bible says because we've got a new interpretation of the bible." It's not a casual religious debate and the person who gets the most votes wins.

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